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Paese spaccato in due. Rischia la guerra vivile. La situazione di sciopero generale dellopposizione(che peraltro controlla i mass media) si protrae da un mese e più. Il presidente Chavez conta sull'appoggio dell'esercito.
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07/01/2003 14:07

La situazione venezolana è molto più complicata di come fanno sembrare i servizi televisivi di questi giorni anche se obiettivamente la tensione c'è principalmente a Caracas e Maracaibo (principale porto petrolifero)...

con chavez stanno tutti i numerosissimi "diseredati" che continuano a credere alle sue promesse di eguaglianza e propsperità, contro ci sono industriali, borghesia, ceto medio e classe politica istituzionale...

esercito e sindacati sono divisi infatti lo sciopero è stato sì proclamato dal sindacato dei lavoratori del petrolio (il più forte del paese) ma quello dei lavoratori dell'acciaio (seconda industria del paese) è abbastanza contrario.
Acciaierie e miniere nell'est e nel sud del paese continuano a lavorare e riescono pure a ricevere rifornimenti di carburante indispensabili per il treno che dalle montagne porta le materie prime alle industrie...
molti fra quelli che hanno più volte appoggiato la "revolucion bolivariana" di Chavez si sono resi conto che erano solo parole ed ora sperano che si dimetta per evitare guerra civile, colpi di stato e bagni di sangue...
d'altra parte è nella "tradizione" del paese fare e disfare dittatori, rivoluzionari e presidenti: lo stesso Bolivar, acclamato presidente, fu cacciato dopo pochi anni dagli stessi che lo acclamarono, addirittura ci fu un "presidente" (Gomez) che fu eletto per tre volte ed altrettante caccaito perchè faceva il dittatore...
la situazione è drammatica e non credo che si risolverà tanto facilmente finchè Chavez farà proclami populisti ed illusori...
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07/01/2003 20:55

Ha detto gianni Minà


intervistato al tg3 che il governo ha toccato i latifondi ed è inviso ai petrolieri Usa.
La questione mi interessa ma devo informarmi meglio.
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Caro ales...

Che Chavez sia da sempre inviso agli USa è notorio, già durante la campagna elettorale non nascondeva la sua amicizia e la sua simpatia per Fidel, infarcendo i suoi discorsi con attacchi spesso piuttosto violenti e preoccupanti contro gli stranieri (non solo americani) che a suo dire rubavano le ricchezze del paese sfruttandone la gente...
subito prima delle elezioni in cui fu eletto per la prima volta (fine 1998) le grandi società straniere che operavano in quel paese (fra cui la mia) invitarono i propri dipendenti a far rientrare in patria le famiglie e a prepararsi scorte di acqua e benzina nel caso di una precipitosa fuga verso l'estero (nel nostro caso il Brasile - 400km attraverso la savana)...

fortunatamente non successe nulla e quel giorno ed i successivi furono fra i più calmi nei due anni che ho trascorso in quel paese, anche perchè, appena eletto, Chavez si affrettò a dire che gli stranieri erano amici del popolo venezolano perchè, portando nuove tecnologie, lo facevano progredire...

ora le notizie le ricevo da maici rimasti lì, il paese è in ginocchioo perchè mancano soprattutto le scorte di generi alimentari (negozi aperti per un'ora al giorno) e tutti cercano (come sempre hanno fatto) di farsi "giustizia" da sè...

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04/05/2017 16:38

Cambiano i governi, ma in Venezuela rimangono sempre alte le tensioni sociali ed il clima da guerra civile:


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'People, to the streets! You must disobey such lunacy!' Venezuela slips further towards CIVIL WAR as opposition leader urges civilians to rise up for 'mega protest' against president

  • President Nicholas Maduro announced Venezuela's constitution will be redrafted by body of 500 workers 
  • He made the announcement in Caracas on Monday as protesters clashed with police just a few miles away 
  • Opposition leaders say Maduro is attempting to kill democracy by bypassing Venezuela's congress
  • Maduro's opponents called on people to 'block the streets' on Tuesday ahead of 'mega protest' on Wednesday

Venezuelan opposition leaders have called for a 'mega protest' after President Nicolas Maduro announced plans for a new constitution drafted by unelected workers and farmers.

Maduro used the May Day holiday to call for a new 'worker's constitution' in an attempt to quell weeks of protests that began after the judiciary tried to strip power from parliament.

But opposition leaders branded the move 'lunacy' and accused Maduro of trying to pull off a 'coup d'etat' by having yet more unelected people meddle in the business of government.

Opposition leader Henrique Capriles called for protesters to 'block the streets' from Tuesday ahead of a 'mega protest' on Wednesday. He tweeted: 'People, into the streets! You must disobey such lunacy!' 

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Protesters clashed with police in Caracas, the Venezuelan capital, during May Day marches as President Nicholas Maduro announced plans to have an unelected body of workers redraft the country's constitution

Protesters clashed with police in Caracas, the Venezuelan capital, during May Day marches as President Nicholas Maduro announced plans to have an unelected body of workers redraft the country's constitution

Opposition leaders urged people to 'block the streets', describing Maduro's plans as 'lunacy' while announcing a 'mega protest' to take place on Wednesday in the capital

Opposition leaders urged people to 'block the streets', describing Maduro's plans as 'lunacy' while announcing a 'mega protest' to take place on Wednesday in the capital

Maduro's leadership has been rocked by almost a month of often violent demonstrations that started when the judiciary tried to strip power from parliament and hand it to themselves

Maduro's leadership has been rocked by almost a month of often violent demonstrations that started when the judiciary tried to strip power from parliament and hand it to themselves

Opposition leaders are calling for fresh elections to be held as polls show Maduro's government is opposed by seven in 10 people in the South American nation

Opposition leaders are calling for fresh elections to be held as polls show Maduro's government is opposed by seven in 10 people in the South American nation

Maduro's opponents say his attempts to rewrite the constitution are simply his government stalling for time in the hopes that protests will dissipate before his term officially ends at the end of next year

Maduro's opponents say his attempts to rewrite the constitution are simply his government stalling for time in the hopes that protests will dissipate before his term officially ends at the end of next year

Masked demonstrators took to the streets for May Day in Caracas yesterday before getting into violent clashes with police as international observers fear Venezuela could slide into civil war 

Masked demonstrators took to the streets for May Day in Caracas yesterday before getting into violent clashes with police as international observers fear Venezuela could slide into civil war 

Maduro believes that protests are being led by 'fascists' and spies from foreign states who are trying to destabilise Venezuela

Maduro believes that protests are being led by 'fascists' and spies from foreign states who are trying to destabilise Venezuela

Scores of riot police were deployed on the streets of Caracas yesterday in an attempt to head-off the violence, but clashes continued to rock the streets after weeks of deadly protests

Scores of riot police were deployed on the streets of Caracas yesterday in an attempt to head-off the violence, but clashes continued to rock the streets after weeks of deadly protests

As Maduro made his announcement in Caracas on Monday, security forces sprayed tear gas and water cannon at anti-government demonstrators elsewhere in the capital.

The scenes will sharpen international concerns over Venezuela's adherence to democracy and fears it is slipping over a precipice to civil conflict.

Opposition leaders are calling for immediate elections to be held for a chance to peacefully oust Maduro before his term officially ends at the end of next year.

The leader of the opposition-held Congress, Julio Borges, said: 'What Maduro is proposing in his desperation is that Venezuela never again manages to have direct, free and democratic voting.'

Maduro said he was invoking his power to create a 500-member constituent assembly representing a 'working class base' and local councils to rewrite the constitution - cutting out the Congress.

The decree was needed to 'block the fascist coup' he said threatened the country, repeating terms portraying his Socialist government as the victim of a US-led capitalist conspiracy. 

Maduro held a competing rally for his supporters in Caracas on Monday, when he announced plans to create a 500-strong body to redraft Venezuela's constitution

Maduro held a competing rally for his supporters in Caracas on Monday, when he announced plans to create a 500-strong body to redraft Venezuela's constitution

The President's move echoes that of his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, except that Chavez was a wildly popular leader - while Maduro enjoys less than 30 per cent support according to polls

The President's move echoes that of his predecessor, Hugo Chavez, except that Chavez was a wildly popular leader - while Maduro enjoys less than 30 per cent support according to polls

By creating a worker's committee to redraft the constitution, Maduro hopes to bypass Congress, a move that opponents say shows he does not support democracy

By creating a worker's committee to redraft the constitution, Maduro hopes to bypass Congress, a move that opponents say shows he does not support democracy

As Maduro signed-off on his proposal, thousands of marchers took to the streets to oppose him before clashes broke out

As Maduro signed-off on his proposal, thousands of marchers took to the streets to oppose him before clashes broke out

There are fears that Venezuela is on the verge of slipping into civil war if Maduro refuses to relinquish power or hold elections

There are fears that Venezuela is on the verge of slipping into civil war if Maduro refuses to relinquish power or hold elections

Hundreds of police decked out in riot gear has become a familiar sight on the streets of Caracas after weeks of protest

Hundreds of police decked out in riot gear has become a familiar sight on the streets of Caracas after weeks of protest

At least 28 people have died during protests which started on April 1, including 13 people who died in a single day last month

At least 28 people have died during protests which started on April 1, including 13 people who died in a single day last month

 
 
 

The new constitution-writing entity would be 'a citizen's constituent body, not from political parties - a people's constituent body,' he said, adding the National Electoral Council would start work on the process on Tuesday.

Maduro's move mirrored that of his late Socialist predecessor Hugo Chavez, who in 1999 had a 131-member Constituent Assembly of various representatives draw up Venezuela's current constitution. The text was overwhelmingly passed by a referendum.

Back then, though, the charismatic Chavez enjoyed enthusiastic public support. Maduro, in contrast, is disapproved of by seven in 10 Venezuelans according to pollsters Venebarometro.

Political analyst Nicmer Evans said that with his new proposal Maduro is 'playing for time at all cost, in order to stay in power'.

'The pro-Chavez movement is convening the only kind of election it can win by manipulating the way voting is held,' said Eugenio Martinez, an analyst who specializes in elections.

Demonstrators attempted to reach the headquarters of the country's electoral body yesterday by hurling Molotov cocktails and rock at riot police standing guard

Demonstrators attempted to reach the headquarters of the country's electoral body yesterday by hurling Molotov cocktails and rock at riot police standing guard

One demonstrator tried to hurl a Molotov cocktail at officers, but the bottle shattered in his hand and covered him in fuel

One demonstrator tried to hurl a Molotov cocktail at officers, but the bottle shattered in his hand and covered him in fuel

An activist is seen covered in flames after attempting to throw a Molotov cocktail at police which burst in his hand

An activist is seen covered in flames after attempting to throw a Molotov cocktail at police which burst in his hand

Officers used tear gas to try and disperse protesters on Monday, with some passing out from the fumes (pictured)

Officers used tear gas to try and disperse protesters on Monday, with some passing out from the fumes (pictured)

A woman with white marks on her face after she was sprayed with tear gas during protests against President Maduro

A woman with white marks on her face after she was sprayed with tear gas during protests against President Maduro

Street protests are one of the few avenues left to oppose Maduro's rule, analysts say, after he manipulated Venezuela's legal system to secure his hold on power

Street protests are one of the few avenues left to oppose Maduro's rule, analysts say, after he manipulated Venezuela's legal system to secure his hold on power

Anti-Maduro antipathy was evident on the streets Monday. Riot police officers clashed with hundreds of protesters, some throwing stones, who tried to break through security barriers to the electoral council headquarters.

Opposition leaders have vowed no letup in their protests demanding early elections to get rid of Maduro. They blame him for an economic crisis that has caused shortages of food and medicine.

Clashes between protesters and riot police left 28 people dead last month, according to prosecutors.

A lawmaker suffered head injuries in Caracas, photographs published online by his supporters showed. Similar protests took place in other towns across the country.

'I am out fighting for Maduro to go. This is a dictatorship in disguise,' said Matilde Rodriguez, 67, from the working class Petare district. 'Venezuela is in intensive care. There is no food and they'll kill you for a pair of shoes.' 

Analysts say street rallies are one of the few means the opposition has left of pressuring Maduro. The president's demand for a new constitution was a way of running out the clock on demands for elections, they said.

'Maduro is gaining time at the expense of everybody, including by stomping on the roadmap left by Chavez himself,' said Socialist-leaning Nicmer Evans.

'This constituent assembly Maduro wants is a clear betrayal of Chavez and the people.'

Water cannons were also used to disperse protesters on the streets of Caracas as police tried to regain control yesterday

Water cannons were also used to disperse protesters on the streets of Caracas as police tried to regain control yesterday

After weeks of demonstrations, protesters have begun arming themselves with shields, helmets and masks to protect against projectiles fired by police and thrown by their own side

After weeks of demonstrations, protesters have begun arming themselves with shields, helmets and masks to protect against projectiles fired by police and thrown by their own side

Protesters have begun manufacturing their own weapons to use against police, with this man firing a homemade mortar

Protesters have begun manufacturing their own weapons to use against police, with this man firing a homemade mortar

Tear gas canisters have lost much of their effectiveness against protesters who have equipped themselves with gas masks

Tear gas canisters have lost much of their effectiveness against protesters who have equipped themselves with gas masks

Molotov cocktails have become the default weapon of choice for protesters as they face-off against riot police in Caracas 

Molotov cocktails have become the default weapon of choice for protesters as they face-off against riot police in Caracas 

Helmets, homemade shields and gas masks are being used by protesters to protect themselves against police

Helmets, homemade shields and gas masks are being used by protesters to protect themselves against police

One demonstrator wears a very unorthodox gas mask as he faces off against riot police armed with tear gas

One demonstrator wears a very unorthodox gas mask as he faces off against riot police armed with tear gas

 
 
 

The violence and political spiral in Venezuela is increasingly unsettling other countries and regional blocs.

Pope Francis has offered to have the Vatican mediate, but was rebuffed by the opposition, which walked away from a previous attempt at dialogue in December when the government did not free political prisoners or set early elections as demanded.

Maduro initially voiced support for the pope's offer. But on Monday, he said the only response to dialogue was the constituent assembly he was setting up. 

The president has rejected opposition calls for general elections before his term ends. He had said he was willing to hold regional polls postponed in December, but electoral authorities did not set a date.

'They want elections? Constituent assembly,' Maduro said.

The president has bristled at what he calls international interference in his country's affairs.

Venezuela last week said it was quitting the Organization of American States after it and other international bodies expressed concern about the country's adherence to democracy.

Another regional bloc, the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States is to hold an extraordinary meeting on Venezuela in El Salvador on Tuesday.


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04/05/2017 16:43

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04/05/2017 16:45

Ho sentito che in Venezuela se la passano molto peggio di quanto si possa immaginare, nei negozi hanno fatto sparire tutta la merce per paura degli assalti della gente che non ha più i soldi per comprare nulla, tant'è che il presidente ha dovuto aumentare tutti gli stipendi per dare ossigeno all'economia, ma l'inflazione è galoppante e non sembrano vedersi soluzioni all'orizzonte...
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05/05/2017 00:00

non a caso si parla di repubbliche sudamericane per descrivere il caos più totale...
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05/05/2017 20:21

Noi rispetto al Venezuela non siamo nel Caos

Ma siamo nella merda

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06/05/2017 11:05

Ma non capisco, il Venezuela ha il più grande ciacimento petrolifero americano e non riesce a sfruttarlo per risollevarsi da questa crisi? Perchè? Come è possibile?
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06/05/2017 11:41

Re:
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Noi rispetto al Venezuela non siamo nel Caos

Ma siamo nella merda

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C'era qualcuno che diceva così anche riguardo alla Libia di Gheddafi, poi si è visto cosa successe lì dopo la scomparsa del Rais...
e così non è difficile prevedere che arriveranno nuove ondate di rifugiati politici anche dal Venezuela.
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C'era qualcuno che diceva così anche riguardo alla Libia di Gheddafi, poi si è visto cosa successe lì dopo la scomparsa del Rais...
e così non è difficile prevedere che arriveranno nuove ondate di rifugiati politici anche dal Venezuela.




Ma la comunità internazionale cosa fa? Non interviene in nessun modo?
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Ma non capisco, il Venezuela ha il più grande ciacimento petrolifero americano e non riesce a sfruttarlo per risollevarsi da questa crisi? Perchè? Come è possibile?



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Detto da te

"Il più grande giacimento petrolifero Americano"

In medio oriente addirittura sono in guerra da una vita, il mondo ha degli equilibri il potente è potente e il povero deve rimanere povero.

Forse l'Italia si salva perchè petrolio non ce nè, se no eravamo schiavizzati da qualche d'uno, un paese che non ne vale la pena fare guerra.

In Venezuela cmq si dice ci siano le donne più bone del mondo
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06/05/2017 23:35

Ma non mi capacito come il Venezuela non sia riuscito a sfruttare i proventi dei pozzi petroliferi per portare beneficio alla sua economia, perchè questi disordini nascono dal fatto che la popolazione è alla fame e il governo non riesce a risolvere la situazione.
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07/05/2017 09:47

Re: Re:
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"Pesce grosso mangia pesce piccolo" Litfiba [SM=x44458]

Detto da te

"Il più grande giacimento petrolifero Americano"

In medio oriente addirittura sono in guerra da una vita, il mondo ha degli equilibri il potente è potente e il povero deve rimanere povero.

Forse l'Italia si salva perchè petrolio non ce nè, se no eravamo schiavizzati da qualche d'uno, un paese che non ne vale la pena fare guerra.

In Venezuela cmq si dice ci siano le donne più bone del mondo
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Ma perchè si finisce a pensare alle donne?
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Re: Re: Re:
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Ma perchè si finisce a pensare alle donne?




Arca prima della battuta finale c'era tutto un altro discorso.

Naturalmente tu sei andata a beccare la battuta che non c'entrava un caxius.
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Comunque le manifestazioni di piazza e le repressioni violente sembrano tuttaltro che finite: www.facebook.com/roger.gonzalez.5055/videos/1021257625...

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